ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR PRESERVATION PROGRAM
ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING
ST. LOUIS, MO
November 6-7, 2008
Bricker advised that he would be chairing the meeting due to a
change in employment with John Murphey; this would avoid a potential
conflict of interest.
addition to Mr. Bricker, members in attendance were John Murphey,
Mary Ann Naber, Tommy Pike, Jim Conkle, David Knudson, Melvena
Heisch, David Dunaway, Carolyn Pendleton, Jim Ross, and Michael
absent were Greg Smith, Michael Jackson, and Phyllis Seitts.
National Park Service (NPS) was represented by Michael Taylor,
Route 66 Program Manager; Kaisa Barthuli, Deputy Route 66 Program
Manager; Aaron Mahr, Superintendent, National Trails System-Intermountain
Region (NTIR), and Josina Martinez, Recorder.
Andrews, St. Louis Convention and Visitors Bureau welcomed the
participants and encouraged them to get out and enjoy the city.
Bricker introduced Aaron Mahr who gave welcoming remarks. He thanked
the Council members for their participation and acknowledged the
work they have done for Route 66. He also recognized Mr. Taylor
and Ms. Barthuli for their outstanding work in managing the Route
66 Corridor Preservation Program. This is the last year of the
program under its initial authorization. The federal government
is currently operating under a continuing resolution. Only 43%
of last year’s budget can be spent under the continuing
resolution. One of the things the NITR is keeping tabs on is the
grant portion of the Route 66 Program. Two of the comprehensive
management programs being administered by the NTIR have been cut
by 25%. He advised the members that they needed to be aware that
these cuts have not yet hit the Route 66 program, but it could
be affected. He again thanked the Council members and partners
Bricker asked the guests to introduce themselves:
Hart, Field Representative, Missouri Alliance for Historic Preservation
Mike Pendleton, Vice President, Kansas Route 66 Association
Bob “Crocodile” Lile, President, Old Route 66 Association
Vicky Ashcraft, President, New Mexico Route 66 Association
Jim Thole, Board Member, Missouri Route 66 Association
Glenda Pike, Editor of the Show Me Route 66 Magazine
Bricker reviewed the agenda and explained schedule for the two
days of activities.
Murphey thanked the FACA members for their participation and reviewed
the accomplishments of the FACA, specifically the inclusion of
Route 66 motels on the endangered list and the oral history project.
The focus of the current meeting was to determine what needs to
be accomplished before the program sunsets. On May 13, 2008, Senators
Pete Domenici and Jeff Bingaman, New Mexico, introduced a reauthorization
bill. It was passed by the Senate subcommittee. On Oct 4, Senator
Harry Reid placed it in the Public Lands omnibus bill. Senator
Thomas Coburn, Oklahoma, will filibuster to stop the bill. There
could be a new stimulus bill be introduced next week. This could
result in the omnibus bill being put aside.
Dunaway asked if the program is being closed down since it’s
being referred to in the past tense. David Bricker explained that
the sunset date is approaching, but there is potential for a reauthorization.
There are some political activities that need to occur before
that bill is passed. Dr. Dunaway asked if a different FACA would
be appointed if the bill is reauthorized. Mr. Taylor stated that
the charter for the FACA ends with the sunset of the program.
If the program is reauthorized, it is unlikely there would be
another FACA convened as the whole FACA process would have to
be reinitiated. Mr. Mahr stated that if the omnibus bill is not
passed during the special session of Congress, the bill would
have to be reintroduced in the next congressional session. They
may expect a lag between the sunset of the current program and
agenda item is the report from Mr. Taylor and Ms. Barthuli on
the activities of the program over the past year.
Taylor has been the program manager since its inception in 2001.
He will be moving to a new position within the NTIR as the Cultural
Resource Manager for the five national historic trails managed
by that office. Ms. Barthuli will become the acting program manager.
John Murphey, former FACA Chairman, has been hired to work with
Ms. Barthuli in the Route 66 program beginning January 2009. Although
Mr. Taylor had not been working full time on Route 66 for the
past couple of years, Ms. Barthuli and Mr. Murphey will bring
the program to its former status.
status of the FACA was discussed. This is the fourth and last
meeting. There are many issues and projects that the staff needs
the guidance of the FACA. There are numerous projects in the works,
and since not all can be accomplished by the end of FY 09, they
will be asking the FACA for their recommendations in setting priorities.
Barthuli provided a number of handouts to the members. In 2005
they developed a strategic plan which they would like to review
to look at the big picture of what has been accomplished and what
still needs to be done. They will additionally look at the long-term
program priorities if the program is reauthorized.
Taylor reviewed the FY 2008 accomplishments. The program received
a grant from the World Monuments Fund for $150,000 directed to
the economic impact study and the National Register Route 66 travel
itinerary initiative. A memorandum of agreement (MOA) was developed
to enable this project. Within the MOA, they identified $105,000
would go towards the economic impact study. The agreement with
Rutgers University has been signed, and is ready to move forward.
Ms. Heisch’s office has been involved with Rutgers and they
have already completed work in Oklahoma. The program will have
that project completed and distribute the information as soon
as possible. The deadline for this project is the end of 2009;
however, they will attempt to expedite it.
Barthuli discussed the itinerary project. The World Monuments
Fund grant also included a second project to inventory leaking
underground storage tanks. A third project is a preservation plan
for the Santo Domingo Tradition Post in New Mexico. Subsequently,
American Express asked to reconsider the last two parts of the
agreement. They discussed other ideas and the Route 66 travel
itinerary initiative. The funds will be redirected to bolster
the National Register Travel Itinerary program.
Taylor updated Ms. Naber’s work to add Route 66 motels to
the National Trust’s Most Endangered List. The National
Trust also provided funding. Another project the National Trust
assisted with is the Aztec Motel in Albuquerque. The motel has
been bought by a development company, which may demolish a portion
of the motel for new development. The City of Albuquerque is in
the process of acquiring the property to prevent this demolition.
motels, the Blue Swallow in Tucumcari, New Mexico, and Park Hills
Motel in Vinita, Oklahoma, received cost-share grants this year.
There is much more work to accomplish with the motel initiative.
Ms. Barthuli hopes they will be able to progress the initiative
before the program sunsets.
Taylor and Ms. Barthuli co-organized the Preserving the Historic
Road Conference held in Albuquerque in September. Michael Wallis
was the keynote speaker of the event. This conference brings together
Departments of Transportation, the Federal Highway Administration,
and state highway departments and preservationists to discuss
how to preserve historic roads and highways. In 2010, the conference
will be held in Washington, DC. Mike Taylor feels that we are
losing considerable historic roadbed on Route 66, and once people
are aware this, they will begin to understand the importance of
Barthuli spoke about the recent National Trust conference in Tulsa,
Oklahoma. Route 66 was featured prominently during the conference.
The program provided educational sessions on Route 66. They additionally
coordinated two 9½ hour tours on Route 66 from Tulsa to
Kansas. FACA members Michael Wallis, Carolyn Pendleton, and Melvena
Heisch were involved with the tours which were successful in giving
participants a great overview of Route 66 and local, state, and
federal preservation efforts to preserve the highway. David Knudson
mentioned how the National Trust was not involved with Route 66,
but since its conference in Santa Fe in 1997, they have become
much more interested.
Barthuli reported that a Memorandums of Understanding (MOU) between
the 11 institutions making up the Route 66 Archives and Research
Collaboration (ARC) had been signed. The MOU outlines what the
institutions plan to do individually and as a group. The group
met in Albuquerque this past year. Notable strides have been made
by the individual institutions in collecting and exhibiting Route
66 materials. Some states have begun to inventory materials that
exist within their state. The University of New Mexico (UNM) completed
a survey of this nature. The group has also started public and
other outreach initiatives. The group developed a subcommittee
to look at the UNM work to determine how they can fund similar
surveys. The next meeting will be held this year at the Autry
National Center of the American West, in Los Angeles.
Taylor discussed the National Historic context. Michael Cassidy
produced a national historic context, which needs to move forward
as a Multiple Property Documentation Form to the Keeper of Register.
This will be finalized by the end of next year. Mr. Murphey will
be editing and formatting the final draft for submittal to the
Arizona, and California are without state contexts. The Missouri
State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) has issued a contract
to complete their state context. Mr. Knudson asked who they were
working with in California. Mr. Taylor stated they had been working
with the SHPO. They had also met with City of Los Angeles officials,
who are undertaking a massive historic building survey which may
include Route 66 resources.
Barthuli reported on their work with UNM to teach students HABS/HAER
documentation skills. The project focus this year was La Bajada,
an escarpment south of Santa Fe containing two alignments of Route
66. They brought in NPS architects to assist the project. The
student drawings are being finalized for submittal to the Library
of Congress. The students participating in the project came from
the landscape architecture, planning, architecture, and history
Barthuli noted that 50 National Register Route 66 itinerary properties
were submitted to Washington, DC, and the plan now is for World
Monuments and American Express Partnerships in Preservation Initiative
to assist with funding to include 50 additional sites. They are
working to get the first 50 up on the National Register web site
by spring. They will continue to work on the additional 50 sites
and hope to have them up by December, 2009.
Taylor noted that at the last FACA meeting, the Illinois roadbed
survey was a priority. The program has entered into agreement
with Illinois to get the survey completed. Michael Jackson’s
office is involved in this agreement. This is one of many surveys
that need to be updated.
Barthuli said the program was able to offer a limited amount of
funding for cost-share projects. Approximately $80,000-$90,000
was awarded to eight new grants this year. She provided a handout
with information on these grants. The group will visit one of
the recipients, the Donut Drive-In, during the afternoon tour.
There was discussion on the projects, specifically on county-owned
historic bridges. Ms. Naber said there are federal funds available
for preservation and maintenance of historic bridges, but most
states/counties are not aware of this, or are fearful of perceived
restrictions that would be involved with receiving federal funds.
There is flexibility in the application of guidance for these
funds. There is a highway bridge rehabilitation and replacement
Taylor discussed an emergency outreach project for the Rock Café,
which burned this past year. The program was approached by Dawn
Welch, the owner of the business, who is seeking funding for a
preservation plan for the building to get it back in operation.
Both the NPS and National Trust provided limited funding assistance
toward plans for the rehabilitation of the building. The goal
will be to retain as much of its historic character as possible.
Barthuli discussed the Twin Arrows site in Arizona. There is concern
about its condition and future use. The site has been out of use
for about 15 years and is frequently vandalized. It sits on Arizona
State Trust lands; the Hopi Tribe owns the buildings. The NTIR
tribal liaison, Otis Halfmoon, was able to secure a meeting between
the Hopi land council and NPS. After the meeting, Ms. Barthuli
informed them of the World Monuments Funds nomination, which elicited
interest in preserving the site. NPS worked with Hopi and the
Arizona Route 66 Association to submit an application to the Trust
for grant funds. The Association received $10,000 for architectural
and preservation plans on behalf of the tribe. The tribe is interested
in having some work completed before the International Route 66
Festival in Flagstaff next year. The tribe is looking at economic
opportunities for the site. The program is committed to working
with the tribe to look for other funding opportunities; the City
of Flagstaff has also offered assistance.
Barthuli discussed the continued management of the grant program.
She provided statistics about the grant program over the years.
A total of 161 applications have been submitted to the program,
of which about half were fully or partially funded. Almost $4
million has been requested; $1.3 million has been provided, which
has been matched by partners in the amount of $1.4 million. The
number of funded projects is 86. Mr. Mahr stated it is critical
that people realize that federal money is being leveraged by the
cost- share matches. Mr. Taylor said these are issues that will
be addressed in the economic impact study.
year there are 26 active projects and five projects in progress.
There were also several projects that had to be deobligated. Ms.
Barthuli provided a list of the projects that have been canceled.
Unfortunately when these projects are not completed, the money
reverts back to the Department of Interior. Mr. Taylor reviewed
the deobligated projects. The council was provided a list of the
projects which were not completed and the reason for why they
were terminated. Ms. Barthuli said the issue brings up the question
of tightening the grant requirements and what the program can
do to prevent these losses, especially if it is reauthorized.
Mr. Conkle asked if the state associations could get involved
as a co-grantor. Dr. Dunaway asked if efforts were made to work
with the grantees to complete the projects. Ms. Barthuli assured
him that they bent over backwards to finish the projects, but
intractable issues prevented their completion.
Taylor summarized the activities of the program over the last
eight years. He discussed the FY 05 strategic plan that has guided
their activities. He provided a copy to each of the members and
asked them to review it.
Barthuli provided an update of the FY 09 priority activities.
Using the strategic plan, which is updated every year, they are
focusing on activities relating to sunset. They picked the activities
based on a number of criteria. By accomplishing these activities,
the program will be ready for sunset or reauthorization. Priorities
include completion of the World Monuments Fund/American Express
grants; the archive and research collaboration; finalization of
the national and state historic contexts; continued development
of a plan to initiate roadbed surveys; preparation of briefing
documents, legacy material, archive in case of sunset, including
turning over program responsibilities to non-federal entity; and
updating the web site as a resource center for Route 66. A final
limited grant season will commence, as they work to close out
existing grant projects. The program will continue to address
urgent situations as they arise, in particular bridges, motels,
and road beds.
she provided a list of long-term priorities, should the program
be reauthorized, and discussed each item. Are there other federal
designations appropriate to Route 66? What is the best role for
federal involvement? Could Route 66 become a national historic
trail, or national historic highway? Can Route 66 be designated
as a NPS unit? Through stakeholder meetings the program could
look at how the federal government could be involved with Route
66 in the future.
Murphey asked Mr. Mahr what the priorities would be if the program
is not reauthorized; what needs to be completed. Mr. Mahr stated
the objectives of the original legislation must be complied with
to insure that outstanding projects are completed. If the program
is reauthorized, the first priority would be development of a
strategic plan. Mr. Mahr asked for a condensed version of why
a signing initiative was never prioritized. Ms. Barthuli said
that directional signage was one of the alternatives proposed
to the public. At the time, that idea was not well received because
it was felt that it would “sanitize” the route. The
sentiment was that interpretation and signing should be left to
the local communities and private landowners. It was also determined
that NPS should not be involved in formulating a national corridor
plan; it should be a local effort to preserve the idiosyncrasies
and flavor of the road. Mr. Pike said that part of this resistance
was a reaction to the federal governments decommissioning of the
highway in the 1980s. He then discussed signing and who could
be in charge of a route-signing initiative.
the lunch break, Mr. Bricker summarized and concluded the discussion
on signage and brought up his thoughts on issues of initial costs
and maintenance and replacement of signs. These are issues that
will have to be considered. Mr. Knudson reported that Illinois
has a program in place to provide signage along the road. Mr.
Ross stated that he liked the idea of designating Route 66 as
a historic highway as there is a great deal of misunderstanding
with the term scenic byway. The designation “scenic byway”
is being changed to America’s Byways.
Bricker moved on to the committee reports
Dunaway – Publicity Committee. The Route 66 media list was
completed. They worked with Kansas on the Baxter Springs visitor
center. They presented their program at the historic roads conference.
Two Indian tribes expressed interest in Route 66 and the preservation
program. They prepared a publicity release for the FACA meeting
in St. Louis.
history has been providing ongoing assistance. They helped organize
the ARC conference, identified research centers, conducted five
oral history interviews, and organized an oral history workshop.
He is training students on conducting oral history. They are visiting
museums, in order to bring them up to date on resources available.
They have updated the database with new sites and collections.
They have also developed a proposal for podcasting.
both Greg Smith and Michael Jackson were absent, the Education
and Outreach Committee did not report.
Knudson and Mr. Ross – Accountability and Measurement. Mr.
Knudson provided a summary of the economic impact study report
to everyone. They will be conducting a national survey next summer
to quantify the number of tourists traveling Route 66. Mr. Knudson
is hopeful that things will be moving along more quickly. Ms.
Barthuli said they have not finalized the methodology of the survey,
but will be coordinating with the associations. Mr. Ross said
that the preliminary data from Dr. Listokin is impressive, as
far as the economic impact and the impact of the preservation
program. The report will be public domain. Ms. Heisch said Oklahoma
will have the Route 66 economic impact study done soon which will
be available on the internet. Mr. Ross stated that the statistical
data provided by the study will have a positive impact and increase
interest in Route 66. The report will be available on CD, on the
web site, and hard copy. SHPOs and other entities will have copies
available. The archival institutions will be provided copies.
Bricker – Preservation Management Committee. The committee
revisited and refined their goals. From Ms. Barthuli’s report,
it appears that the recommendations are being followed by program
staff. The first is the completion of the national context. This
is underway; some activity is pending. The second are the outstanding
state contexts: Missouri, California, and Arizona. This is also
moving forward; NPS will facilitate their completion in the next
fiscal year. The third item is addressing pending nominations,
specifically those under the Missouri context. These nominations
are waiting on the completion of a state context. The context
for Missouri has been written, but not put into MPDF format. A
contactor has been hired to do this.
Bricker asked Ms. Barthuli if there were any other issues she
needed to revisit. She suggested they look at the FACA items from
the last meeting and update the FACA action items handout provided
first is to develop a rack card or brochure listing resources
that could aid preservation along Route 66. They plan to do this
second is to address pending nominations that have no state context.
This is being addressed and is a priority item.
third is missing state contexts for California, Missouri, and
Arizona. They are moving forward with Missouri; Arizona has a
context that needs to be updated; California will require a larger
establishment of a national organization. It is anticipated that
this will be completed this fiscal year.
of funding limitations, they will not be able to address all the
economic impact study will be completed.
Naber asked how the economic impact study will be accomplished
before the end of the fiscal year. This money is not tied to a
fiscal year, so it does not have to be finished by the end of
fiscal year 09 (FY 09).
Conkle stated that in spite of the economic problems and gas prices,
Route 66 businesses did very well this past year.
three priorities were the state contexts, roadbed surveys, economic
impact study. Mr. Ross asked about their status. What is the status
of the roadbed surveys and is it realistic to think those will
be completed before the program sunsets? Ms. Barthuli said they
will not be able to get to all of them done; Oklahoma is completed,
they have an agreement with the Illinois SHPO to update an existing
survey; a thorough Kansas survey is finished. They have not determined
how they will proceed in the other states. Because of limited
funding, they will have to look at how this will be accomplished.
Missouri, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California need to be
addressed. Mr. Ross asked if they could solicit volunteers in
those states to accomplish this task. He feels it is crucial that
this gets done. How can you prioritize what is going to be preserved
if you don’t know what exists? He feels there are enough
people out there who have become authorities on the subject who
could be asked to conduct the surveys. The Oklahoma survey could
be used as a template. It is a simple, straightforward process.
Ms. Naber stated that FHWA went to local agencies and individuals,
and received feedback. It was very effective. Once Oklahoma completed
their roadbed survey, they were able to move ahead with National
Register nominations on the most threatened sites. Mr. Murphey
said they need to develop a methodology that would work with each
individual DOT. Each DOT has their own way of surveying and evaluating
road resources. Mr. Ross said that DOTs are only concerned with
roads within their own systems. There was further discussion on
this issue; how to leverage people and resources to get it done.
They will try to work on this in the ensuing year.
Dunaway referred back to the context studies. He is available
to help with the context studies and have material that could
enhance the studies.
Conkle said that when the economic study is done they can show
it to various government entities; it could be helpful to convince
them that Route 66 is economically beneficial. Ms. Naber said
the context studies would also be useful for the state DOTs.
Bricker said that there is a portion of Route 66 from Needles
to Barstow which I-40 bypassed. There are 28 low lying bridges
that California DOT (Caltrans) is working to save. They have been
trying to work with San Bernardino County to replace or repair
these bridges. As funding arrives they will work in accordance
with Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. The
design and materials of the bridges are the biggest challenge.
adjourned for the field trips.
Bricker began the meeting by asking the members to introduce themselves
for the benefit of the public attending the meeting and also asked
the guests to introduce themselves.
Hart, Field Representative, Missouri Alliance for Historic Preservation
Bob “Crocodile” Lile, President, Old Route 66 Association
Vicky Ashcraft, President, New Mexico Route 66 Association
Bill Hudson, Illinois
Pat Henderson, Missouri
Carol Dyson, Illinois Historic Preservation Agency
Aaron Mahr, Superintendent, National Trails System-Intermountain
Mike Pendleton, Vice President, Kansas Historic Route 66 Association
Jim Thole, Missouri Route 66 Association
Shelly Graham, Oklahoma
Bricker introduced Tom Bradley, Superintendent of the Jefferson
National Expansion Memorial who welcomed the Advisory Council,
along with Frank Mares of his staff.
Bricker reviewed the agenda for the day. He opened the public
Henderson gave an update on her efforts to create a Route 66 postage
stamp. She is also working with representative in Tulsa on a postmark
in conjunction with the opening of the new Route 66 Xperience
visitor center. Mr. Conkle suggested there could be a series of
four postage stamps commemorating Route 66. Mr. Knudson said there
is a gentleman in Illinois who is also working on this, and asked
if they had been in contact with him. Mr. Conkle said they would
talk to him about it. Dr. Dunaway made a motion for the council
to pass a resolution in support of the Route 66 postage stamp.
Mr. Pike seconded. The motion passed unanimously. Mr. Conkle stated
that it should have a significant connection to Route 66, not
just picture a car. Mr. Pike said he recommended that there be
a stamp issued for each state. Pat Henderson said that she has
been working with a colleague on a design for the stamp.
Hart brought up the reauthorization and stated that his organizations
are ready and willing to do anything they can to lobby for it.
It was brought up that the advisory council members can lobby
as private citizens, but not as members of the council.
Ashcraft expressed her appreciation to the council for the work
they have done. Bob Lile expressed his appreciation and the money
which was made available for the Triangle Motel, Amarillo, Texas.
He also mentioned that the state associations need to get together
to push the reauthorization through.
Pike said that we are going to have to re-educate the newly elected
public officials on the importance of Route 66 and make new contacts.
Dyson said that, thanks to a cooperative agreement between the
Illinois SHPO and the NPS Route 66 program, they had an intern
who GPS plotted the roadbed in Illinois. Next summer they will
have another intern design guidelines for that roadbed. She asked
if anyone else had design guidelines that they could follow. Ms.
Barthuli said there is a bike trail initiative on Route 66 in
Illinois in which it is critical to identify the most significant
portions of the roadbed and to provide guidance on how to best
protect these features. They have discussed developing a toolkit
with different options for the roadbed. They are looking at outreach
materials, public meetings, and website information.
were no other comments from the public. The public comment period
Bricker suggested that they review the strategic plan. The plan
was remarkably ambitious and well thought out. There are many
accomplishments that can be identified. Goal #4 is one of the
most challenging. Given the circumstances, they seem to have accomplished
the goal in the face of funding restrictions. Mr. Wallis said
that many of the strategies will be discussed by the Route 66
Alliance. Mr. Pike said that he thinks the program gave a great
deal of credibility to Route 66. Although the financial assistance
is nice, it isn’t enough. The program was not funded to
the level they had hoped for at the beginning, but it did give
people credibility and elevated the highway’s status. This
is why he hates to see the program end. What has been done is
good, but it needs to continue. Mr. Conkle said the intangible
that we can’t give value to is the economic impact. They
need to let Congress know what the program has done for the road;
they would not be where they are today were it not for the program.
Mr. Ross noted that the lighting of the Donut Drive-In sign the
previous evening was a prime example of what the program has accomplished.
Ms. Heisch said the Route 66 program has also had a huge impact
on other preservation efforts at local, state, and national levels.
Dunaway said that in reviewing the goals, he is impressed by how
much has been accomplished. Everything has moved forward under
the stewardship of the NPS. Reading this goal raises the question
of citizen participation.
Pendleton said that this program has had a huge impact on their
community. The gas station completion has inspired other projects.
Restoration is continuing. The program has changed the whole outlook
of Route 66 in Baxter Springs.
Knudson stated that he hopes the Route 66 Alliance will develop
the manpower to work with and advocate for the NPS program. Mr.
Conkle said that the alliance will have an action committee based
on the National Trust’s example.
Bricker stated that he would like to review Goal #4, Strategy
#6 (Goal 4: Ensure efficient administration of National Park Service
program. Strategy 6: Seek advice from Federal Advisory Council.)
He commented that the NPS staff took the strategy seriously, by
placing many of council’s recommendations in the strategic
plan. They recognized the need to get advice from other individuals
and it was generous to take that strategy seriously. Mr. Ross
said that Mr. Taylor and Ms. Barthuli have done an outstanding
job in administering the program. The council was very complimentary
of the NPS staff.
Dunaway discussed Goal #4, Strategy # 2 (Goal 4: Ensure efficient
administration of National Park Service program. Strategy 2: Request
increases to program funding.)
Does this extend the reach of the program? Would it be possible
to find other funds from NPS for other agencies in FY 09? Could
it be an effective strategy? Mr. Mahr said that it would be challenging
to find funds internally within NPS; these funds are usually prioritized
to parks. Like all the trails, Route 66 crosses many NPS regions,
and all the programs are regionally specific. The NTIR does not
score well with these types of funding. It’s the nature
of internal NPS funding allocations. On the other hand, the program
received $100,000 from the NPS Special Emphasis Priority Allocation
System which was directed towards developing the National Context
and nomination properties to the National Register. The Route
66 program exists only because of the legislation. Once that legislation
ends, the program will no longer exist and they will not be able
to compete for funding.
Naber said that there are other programs under DOT where Route
66 projects could compete for funding. These programs will continue
to be available to any of the resources along Route 66. There
are many federal funding sources available. NPS does provide funding
for project specific areas that individual Route 66 areas could
apply for. Mr. Conkle reported that they have lobbied not only
Congress but also federal agencies. There is more money there,
they just need to know where to go and who to contact.
Dyson noted that there were other funding sources such as Preserve
America and Save America’s Treasures grants. She asked Ms.
Naber about transportation enhancement funds and how they are
allocated to states. Ms. Naber replied that the states run their
programs, with FHWA oversight. The money cannot go directly to
Pike said that each entity has a different way of administering
their programs, so it is difficult to deal with them. Mr. Bricker
said that this is also true of cities, counties, and states.
next topic of discussion was the formation of the Route 66 Alliance.
Mr. Bricker asked the chair of the steering committee, Mr. Conkle,
to explain what the alliance mission will be and specifically
what they expect from the NPS in the form of support and participation.
Mr. Conkle responded that the alliance will be a clearinghouse
made up of groups and individuals who have a stake in the road.
They are coming together to take this goal to the next level.
They want to bring all associations together to work as a team.
They have come up with bylaws that they will be voting on. In
order to join the alliance, an individual must be a member of
a state association. This helps membership of the individual associations,
and shows that the association is being driven from the bottom
up. The first logical choice for a national organization would
be the Route 66 Federation; however Mr. Knudson elected not to
pursue it. When you are an international or national organization,
you command more attention. The alliance is not going to solve
all the problems of the road but will assist in addressing them.
Mr. Wallis provided an update on what has been done since their
initial meeting. They have talked about a national entity for
years. This is the first time they have gone forward with the
idea. Much of the credit for this goes to Rick Freeland. He is
key to this project because he brings fresh ideas and resources.
He has served as a voice of reason on the committee and helped
mediate differences. They have helped secure legal counsel, much
of it pro bono. Mr. Wallis has a draft of the charter prepared
by their pro bono attorney. Within two weeks, these papers can
be filed, creating the alliance. They will need to find a bright
professional to run the alliance who is familiar with preservation,
management, and grant writing. They have to pay that person a
decent salary and provide a good staff. They would like to model
the organization after the national Lincoln Highway Association.
Every state association on the road must be represented on the
board. The incorporation papers will be discussed tomorrow at
a separate meeting. Once they are a nonprofit, they will begin
Ross asked how corporations will be approached for monetary support.
Mr. Wallis said they will target corporations that have an interest
in Route 66, including the fuel and hospitality industries. People
that need to be on the board will be representatives from entities
that exist on Route 66. The alliance will not work unless if it
cannot efficiently serve the eight states. What they need is a
central clearinghouse that can be a resource for the route nationally.
Mr. Pike asked what the advisory council sees as the mission of
the alliance. Mr. Ross said that he thought the alliance would
carry on some of the work that the NPS will not be able to continue
if it is not reauthorized. Mr. Conkle said they would not take
resources or members away from the state associations, but will
enhance them. Mr. Wallis said this is a possible way to fulfill
Goal #4. They would take over the records and archives of the
NPS. Mr. Murphey asked if the alliance will offer a grant program
similar to what has been done through the NPS. Mr. Wallis said
that could be a part of it, along with education. He has discussed
options with institutions of higher learning in Oklahoma, such
as archiving papers, etc. They need credibility. Mr. Conkle said
they will deal with preservation, education, grants, marketing,
and legal issues. Mr. Knudson asked who owns the files and documentation
that the NPS has amassed. Ms. Barthuli said it is the property
of the federal government, and if the program sunsets, a plan
will need to be developed to determine how and where it is archived.
Mr. Ross said the alliance is going to need a substantial set
of bylaws. He commented that individuals and businesses can join
but they must be members of a state association. Will the alliance
be able to provide the information directly to the public? Mr.
Wallis said they will be doing that. Dr. Dunaway said that Route
66 has been down this road before. A member of the steering committee
should stop in Clinton, Oklahoma, and go through the documentation
of the original Route 66 Association. What they’ll find
is a linear Route 66 chamber of commerce. There is documentation
that the alliance could use. They can learn from the Route 66
experience. Mr. Pike said they have to proceed with caution. Ms.
Barthuli said that the value of the alliance cannot be understated.
The success of the program could not have happened without working
with the state associations. If they had a national organization
to work with, the program could accomplish even more. The Act
states that the program shall assist the states in determining
the appropriate form and establishment of a national organization.
She said the program can look at ways to help facilitate the formation
of the alliance. Ms. Barthuli stated one opportunity for the alliance
is National Trust Preservation Leadership Training. This training
provides a comprehensive course in preservation law, organizational
development, and tools for getting out on the ground to preserve
resources. This program might help provide a common vision for
the formation of the alliance. Mr. Wallis said the board should
take this training. Mr. Ross asked who they envisioned serving
on the board. Some steering committee members would be on the
board, but they would recruit people from various national and
international groups. The NPS could serve in an advisory capacity
to the board of directors. Mr. Wallis said a key is who they select
as an Executive Director. They will answer to the board, but that
person must be a self-starter, a good manager, and able to handle
many issues at once. Mr. Ross said they are going to need a large
full time staff. Mr. Bricker opened the discussion to the public.
Lile said that in Texas they have built an excellent organization
with only one full time employee. Mr. Bricker asked what sort
of information the program needs to assist in the development
of the alliance. Ms. Barthuli said at this stage it is a matter
of getting the alliance off the ground. The NPS recognizes the
need for the alliance, and would like to look at ways it can help
with its development. Mr. Conkle said that they don’t have
a mission statement yet, but when that is done they can sit down
with the NPS do discuss their role. Mr. Wallis asked if it would
be possible for the alliance to get an endorsement from the NPS.
Ms. Barthuli responded they could look at ways to partner and
work together. Ms. Naber said that she could potentially be a
consultant to the alliance on a personal basis at a minimum. She
also asked if the alliance would be a replacement for the Route
66 Corridor Preservation Program if it sunsets. It is hoped that
the program will be reauthorized and will partner with the alliance,
but if it doesn’t, then the alliance will take on many of
the responsibilities of the program. Mr. Ross said a big advantage
of the alliance is that if you receive corporate and private funding,
Congressional funds wouldn’t be needed.
asked the new attendees from the public to introduce themselves.
Larson, Fort Smith, Arkansas
Jill Church, Route 66 Alliance Steering Committee
Rick Freeland, Vice-Chair, Route 66 Alliance Steering Committee
Dunaway provided copies of the executive summary of the ARC meeting
to all members of the council.
discussion and recommendations to the NPS. Mr. Bricker asked if
there were any other comments to the topics discussed prior to
lunch that needed to be readdressed. Mr. Wallis feels that there
is a general consensus that the meeting thus far has been very
fruitful. He is focused on the formation of the alliance and is
delighted that they have diversity on the steering committee.
He is looking forward to seeing the alliance become formally organized.
Mr. Conkle said that Dr. Dunaway had drafted a potential mission
statement which he read to the council.
Barthuli reiterated that the NPS stands ready to assist with the
formation of the alliance in any way possible, as directed by
Mahr suggested that the group move very deliberately and think
about feasibility and look at the history of similar organizations
to see what can be accomplished. A mission statement and a vision
statement are critical. He also recommended a strategic plan for
the first year of development. Look at what has and hasn’t
worked in the past, what great ideas have come up. The NPS could
provide a facilitator for a meeting to develop a strategic plan.
Ms. Barthuli said that it may be possible to work with the National
Trust to hold a Better Boards or Preservation Leadership training
session exclusively for Route 66.
Pike asked what issues needed to be discussed by the council.
Will the program be giving grants out this year? Ms. Barthuli
said there will be a small grant program this fiscal year, as
other priorities must also be addressed in consideration of sunset.
There are also a number of existing grants that are scheduled
to be completed by the end of FY 09. She referred to the handout
provided that listed the projects and priorities for the remainder
of the year. Mr. Pike asked if there was anything that needed
to be considered to be funded before the end of the program. Mr.
Taylor added that once the alliance steering committee provided
their mission statement, and organizational papers, the NPS could
possibly provide limited financial support.
Conkle asked if the website could be transferred to the alliance
in the event the program is not reauthorized. Ms. Barthuli said
the website will be updated and developed as a resource center.
They do not yet know what will happen to the website if the program
sunsets. They will, however, create legacy materials that will
extend beyond the program.
Dunaway said one concern about the alliance taking over is responding
to the numerous inquiries from the public. The alliance will have
to be able to take on the responsibility of these inquiries; ideally
they can turn these inquiries into memberships. Mr. Wallis said
this issue would be discussed at the steering committee meeting.
Ross said there is going to be a great deal of networking involved
in providing information to the public. Not all inquiries will
be directly related to Route 66, but he feels they will need to
respond to all types of questions.
Taylor asked the FACA members to provide guidance on how to best
preserve the resources on Route 66. He asked them to look at the
big picture of how much highway is being lost: roadbed, diners,
gas stations. In the eight years he’s been working on the
route, many resources have been lost. The physical remnants of
the road are critical to preserve. How can the program and other
agencies work together to try and preserve the road? If the program
is not reauthorized, time and resources will be limited. The overall
need to create awareness between city, county, state, and federal
governments is important. Mr. Knudson said we need to educate
the world on the importance of Route 66; public relations efforts
are critical to this end. The economic impact study will create
value in the communities. These two efforts will help preserve
properties on the road. He envisions the alliance hiring a public
relations agency for this purpose.
Naber said that if there are standard treatments that have worked
in the past, these should be made available to the public; case
studies and best practices would be useful. The owners and managers
of the road need to be aware of these resources. Mr. Knudson said
in California a problem is the value of the property. Perhaps
educating the owners as to the historic value would be beneficial.
Mahr asked how the information from the economic impact study
would be distributed to the public and asked the council for suggestions
on how this could be accomplished. Ms. Barthuli stated there is
funding in the project agreement to hold a number of public meetings
to talk about the results of the economic study. This will happen
next year. The results of the study will be available on the website
and American Express will publish the information. If the program
is reauthorized, they can look at other opportunities. Ms. Heisch
said that the Main Street Program members would be a good way
to get this information to the Route 66 business owners in Oklahoma.
Mr. Pike said the information needs to go to the people who are
not in the Route 66 community. Dr. Dunaway said they have developed
a Route 66-specific press contact list. The program should produce
press releases highlighting the results of the economic study
state by state.
was a great deal of discussion on how to further contact and make
owners aware of these preservation efforts.
Bricker brought up item #6 of the FY 09 priority list, referring
to the education, briefing documents and program overview documents.
In terms of website information, what has been accomplished thus
far could be better highlighted. Reviewing the activities, this
should be a higher priority because of the sunset.
Heisch stated that in Oklahoma, they are holding preliminary talks
with ODOT to discuss Route 66 issues. Mr. Murphey said that the
Lincoln Highway Association already has an agreement with Iowa
DOT which addresses such issues. Ms. Barthuli said that there
is already some work that has been done in Illinois with the SHPO
to build upon an existing programmatic agreement. They would be
happy to work with Ms. Heisch on this.
Ross asked Mr. Taylor if his question as to what needs to be done
has been answered. Mr. Taylor said that he just wants to make
the council aware that there needs to be awareness and education.
Public and private owners need to be educated. There is a systematic
chipping away of the road. There is some change that is inevitable,
and they will have to live with that. Mr. Wallis said that there
is a bright future for the road; they can’t save it all,
but they must save what they can. The key word is relevance; people
need to know this road is still relevant. In many communities
it’s still the main road. Mr. Pike said change is natural
to the road; it has always been in a state of change. Ms. Barthuli
said that change on a commercial corridor is inevitable, but it
is how that change happens that is critical. Mr. Ross reiterated
that we need to save the best resources; that is why the historical
context and surveys are so important to prioritize these resources.
Mr. Knudson said a prime example is the Red Cedar Inn in Missouri,
and lack of understanding by the community as to its importance
and the importance of Route 66.
Graham asked if there was any effort to educate small motel owners
on preservation issues. Ms. Barthuli said there have been isolated
efforts. A discussion then took place on the motel initiatives
and related preservation efforts.
Bricker asked that the council review the 2009 priorities preparing
for sunset, which Mr. Taylor and Ms. Barthuli had established.
Barthuli reviewed the priority activities prior to sunset.
first priority is completion of the World Monuments/American Express
contract, to include the travel itinerary and economic impact
study. Mr. Taylor said the economic impact study will be condensed
down for easy interpretation; information will be broken down
by state. Rutgers is a leader in this type of study.
on the list is the Archive and Research Center Collaboration.
The MOU has been signed, but there has been little publicity about
it. They will launch a publicity campaign and hold a meeting in
California. A goal of the meeting will be to find a way to make
the collaboration sustainable on its own without NPS involvement.
An important component of the initiative is to connect the state
associations with the archives in their states.
is to finalize the national context. This involves packaging the
data into a MPDF format, which has been completed. The document
is being reviewed by the staff of the Keeper of the Register.
The period of national significance is being considered to be
extended to 1985. In additional to the National Context, they
are going to work to finalize the state contexts. Missouri is
nearly completed, Arizona is under review; California is going
to require a great deal of effort to initiate.
an active work plan to complete road bed surveys.
for sunset by creating legacy materials and briefing documents,
developing a rack card, etc, with the intent to showcase best
on upgrading the website.
to offer a limited grant cycle. They may tighten the eligibility
and priorities for grant cycles in the future. The 26 current
projects will be closed out, including coordinating award ceremonies
and giving out recognition plaques.
the formation of the Route 66 Alliance.
issues relating to road beds, bridges, and motels.
this will be the last Advisory Council meeting, the council remains
active until the end of FY 09.
Dunaway said that the oral history information must be safeguarded.
Taylor asked if there were any further comments from the council.
Conkle noted that the alliance will be taking over publication
of the Pulse.
Pendleton expressed her gratitude for the opportunity to serve
on the council. She has met many people that she hopes to keep
in touch with. Ms. Heisch agreed with Ms. Pendleton and said she
hopes to continue the working relationship with everyone. There
are more exciting things to come.
Murphey said he was grateful to serve as chair; serving on the
council provided an opportunity to work with individuals and groups
beyond governmental preservation agencies.
Pike said he has enjoyed serving, participating in interesting
discussions, and hopes to keep in touch. It has been an enlightening
experience for him.
Dunaway said he has enjoyed the diversity of the council. The
road is a community and the community has diversity.
Ross said it has been a great honor to serve. With all the areas
of expertise that came to the table, he has learned much. He commented
that although there were only four meetings, they have set into
motion actions that will pay dividends far into the future.
Wallis said he sees this as just another beginning. What he values
the most is the people experience. He feels that he has gained
new friends and that serving on the council has paid big dividends.
He asked everyone to give Mr. Taylor and Ms. Barthuli a standing
Knudson thanked Mr. Taylor and Ms. Barthuli, and wished John Murphey
well in his new position.
Bricker echoed everyone’s sentiments and also thanked Ms.
Martinez and Mr. Mahr. It has been a privilege to be on the council.
He thanked everyone for their work.
Conkle said the road is in better shape because of the involvement
of the people in the council.
Taylor stated it was a privilege to act as the Designated Federal
Official for the FACA. Although it took several years to get the
council off the ground, it has been a valuable tool for the program.
He thanked the members for serving on the council. He thanked
Mr. Bricker for agreeing to serve as chair for the last meeting
and also Mr. Murphey for serving as chairman for the previous
three meetings. The last item was the presentation of plaques
to each of the members commemorating their service on the Advisory
Barthuli recognized Mr. Taylor’s leadership and his contributions
to the program.
being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 4:30 p.m.